From john.convey at sci-do.co.uk Tue Feb 5 11:12:30 2008 From: john.convey at sci-do.co.uk (john convey) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:12:30 +0000 Subject: [4DLUG] 4d and php Message-ID: <6C74EFD4-BDA1-4AF1-9B1B-6DAA8CAE0D73@sci-do.co.uk> Hi, I know some of us are mixing php and 4d and went to the PHP conference a couple of years ago here are the details for this year. John John Convey From: blabyboy at googlemail.com Subject: [PHPLondon-discuss] phplondon conference 2008 Date: 24 January 2008 16:00:00 GMT To: phplondon-discuss at lists.phplondon.org Reply-To: phplondon-discuss at lists.phplondon.org Hi All, You may have seen some blog posts over the last few days talking about the conference we will be holding this year. I'm pleased to say we have the speaker list finalised now and you can grab a ticket from the website for ?90. http://www.phpconference.co.uk/registration The date is 29th February 2008 (Leap year day) and registration starts at 9am for a 9:30am start. The venue is Inmarsat, Old St, London ( http://www.phpconference.co.uk/venue). We're also trying two tracks this year, a main one and secondary one which will run more specialised talks and in a smaller room. For those coming from further afield we'll be adding a page for nearby hotels early next week. For those of you that might blog about the event, don't forget to tag your blog posts or flickr photos with "phplondon08". thanks, paul -- ---------------------------------------------------------- phplondon conference 2008 is on 29th February. Visit www.phpconference.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------- phplondon member 1st Thursday of every month http://www.phplondon.org _______________________________________________ Phplondon-discuss mailing list List info: http://lists.phplondon.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ phplondon-discuss PHP-London site: http://phplondon.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.4dlug.org.uk/pipermail/list/attachments/20080205/49d8ef72/attachment.html From pbensky at catbase.com Thu Feb 7 10:33:47 2008 From: pbensky at catbase.com (Pat Bensky) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:33:47 +0000 Subject: [4DLUG] What does a 4D programmer cost? Message-ID: I am putting together a budget for a potential investor and would like to get some feedback as to what we will need to allow for a full-time 4D programmer. He/she will need to be an experienced 4D developer with a programming/IT qualification of some sort. Thanks for your feedback! Pat -------------------------------------------------- CatBase: The Data Publishing Solution CatBase Software Ltd. T: +44 (0) 1462 454522 W: http://www.catbase.com skype: pat.bensky -------------------------------------------------- From lisa at anotherdimension.co.uk Thu Feb 7 11:15:13 2008 From: lisa at anotherdimension.co.uk (Lisa Pollard) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:15:13 +0000 Subject: [4DLUG] What does a 4D programmer cost? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6B64AC80-A2F8-4AFE-9968-58DF3ED5DBF2@anotherdimension.co.uk> Hi Pat, That's a loaded question. It really depends on how experienced a programmer you need. If you look at the going rate for programmers it can be anywhere from ?25k - ?45k. If you want anyone worth their salt then I would say around ?35k pa. Just my 2p's worth. cheers Lisa On 7 Feb 2008, at 10:33, Pat Bensky wrote: > I am putting together a budget for a potential investor and would > like to > get some feedback as to what we will need to allow for a full-time 4D > programmer. He/she will need to be an experienced 4D developer with a > programming/IT qualification of some sort. > > Thanks for your feedback! > > Pat > > > -------------------------------------------------- > CatBase: The Data Publishing Solution > CatBase Software Ltd. > T: +44 (0) 1462 454522 > W: http://www.catbase.com > skype: pat.bensky > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Next 4D London User Group Meetings: > > > 4d Summit Memphis Tennessee > 16-19th October > http://www.4d.com/summit/index.html > > 4d LUG dates > --------------- > Monday December 3rd 2007 Christmas Party > Monday March 3rd 2008 > Monday June 2nd 2008 > Monday September 1st 2008 > ---------------------------------------- > > http://www.lmug.org.uk/ > > list mailing list > list at 4dlug.org.uk > http://lists.4dlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/list cheers Lisa -- Lisa Pollard Software Developer Please note our new contact details: Another Dimension Ltd Needham Hall Barns Needham Street Gazeley, Newmarket Suffolk. CB8 8RR lisa at anotherdimension.co.uk Tel: +44 1638 554450 URL: http://www.anotherdimension.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.4dlug.org.uk/pipermail/list/attachments/20080207/6dd73b4d/attachment.html From lo.farnan at btconnect.com Thu Feb 7 16:02:04 2008 From: lo.farnan at btconnect.com (Lo Farnan) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:02:04 -0000 Subject: [4DLUG] What does a 4D programmer cost? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01c869a2$c8b4a700$5a1df500$@farnan@btconnect.com> Hmm... Full time? Experienced? London? 35-40k Less in the sticks. Less for less experience. Just my 2P guess. Best Lo ******************************************* Love & Kisses Tel +44(0)1483 272140 Lo Fax +44(0)1483 272141 Mobile 07768 693671 Lo Farnan lo at elysium.net ******************************************* > -----Original Message----- > I am putting together a budget for a potential investor and would like > to > get some feedback as to what we will need to allow for a full-time 4D > programmer. He/she will need to be an experienced 4D developer with a > programming/IT qualification of some sort. From pbensky at catbase.com Thu Feb 7 19:10:59 2008 From: pbensky at catbase.com (Pat Bensky) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:10:59 +0000 Subject: [4DLUG] What does a 4D programmer cost? In-Reply-To: <000f01c869a2$c8b4a700$5a1df500$@farnan@btconnect.com> Message-ID: Thanks for your input Lo and Lisa. That's pretty much what I had figured. Pat -------------------------------------------------- CatBase: The Data Publishing Solution CatBase Software Ltd. T: +44 (0) 1462 454522 W: http://www.catbase.com skype: pat.bensky -------------------------------------------------- > From: Lo Farnan > Organization: elysium.net > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:02:04 -0000 > To: > Subject: RE: [4DLUG] What does a 4D programmer cost? > > Hmm... > > Full time? > Experienced? > London? > > 35-40k > > Less in the sticks. > Less for less experience. > > Just my 2P guess. > > Best > Lo > > ******************************************* > Love & Kisses Tel +44(0)1483 272140 > Lo Fax +44(0)1483 272141 > Mobile 07768 693671 > Lo Farnan lo at elysium.net > ******************************************* >> -----Original Message----- > > >> I am putting together a budget for a potential investor and would like >> to >> get some feedback as to what we will need to allow for a full-time 4D >> programmer. He/she will need to be an experienced 4D developer with a >> programming/IT qualification of some sort. > > > _______________________________________________ > Next 4D London User Group Meetings: > > > 4d Summit Memphis Tennessee > 16-19th October > http://www.4d.com/summit/index.html > > 4d LUG dates > --------------- > Monday December 3rd 2007 Christmas Party > Monday March 3rd 2008 > Monday June 2nd 2008 > Monday September 1st 2008 > ---------------------------------------- > > http://www.lmug.org.uk/ > > list mailing list > list at 4dlug.org.uk > http://lists.4dlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/list From john.convey at sci-do.co.uk Thu Feb 28 11:20:25 2008 From: john.convey at sci-do.co.uk (john convey) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:20:25 +0000 Subject: [4DLUG] next Monday 4D LUG Pizza meetup Message-ID: <95DA57DA-F915-4716-BCA9-0FA5329219D7@sci-do.co.uk> Crikey its nearly March, The next 4d LUG meeting is next Monday night 7.30 not 7 pm Since switching to only four a year the turnouts have been higher on average Pizza at Pizza express to the pub - for laptop demos - Questions and answers - any 4d problems open to all to answer topic of the day- 4d open discussion in the pub there will be a demo of : Online graphs generated from 4d using XML and SWF ( did not do last time) -If anyone else would like to demo some neat 4d feature / or 4d working with other software let me know NB the Victoria line is not working after 10 pm so check for alternatives http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/livetravelnews/realtime/tube/tube-victoria- now.html Details below, just one rule... * please Reply to me if you plan to attend so we can book the table/s!* john at sci-do.co.uk Date: Monday 3rd March Time: 7pm Place: Pizza Express Victoria Street Opposite Victoria Tube District/Circle Exit http://www.pizzaexpress.co.uk/rest/rd39.htm Then: Victoria pub, Lower Belgrave St (Victoria station end) Usually get there 21:00-21:30 (if anyone wants to meet there later) As usual, everyone is welcome, no level of 4D knowledge/experience/ interest is required, just wanting to attend qualifies you. As already stated, let me know if you plan to attend! See you there John John convey Next 4d LUG meet ups > Monday March 3rd 2008 > Monday June 2nd 2008 > Monday September 1st 2008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.4dlug.org.uk/pipermail/list/attachments/20080228/6ef039c0/attachment.html From nigel.mehdi at mehdiward.com Thu Feb 28 11:40:53 2008 From: nigel.mehdi at mehdiward.com (nigel.mehdi@mehdiward.com) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:40:53 -0000 Subject: [4DLUG] next Monday 4D LUG Pizza meetup References: <95DA57DA-F915-4716-BCA9-0FA5329219D7@sci-do.co.uk> Message-ID: John Please pencil me in, but I may need to cancel if events on the day conspire against me. Regards Nigel Mehdi ________________________________ From: john convey [mailto:john.convey at sci-do.co.uk] Sent: 28 February 2008 11:20 To: list at 4dlug.org.uk Subject: [4DLUG] next Monday 4D LUG Pizza meetup Crikey its nearly March, The next 4d LUG meeting is next Monday night 7.30 not 7 pm Since switching to only four a year the turnouts have been higher on average Pizza at Pizza express to the pub - for laptop demos - Questions and answers - any 4d problems open to all to answer topic of the day- 4d open discussion in the pub there will be a demo of : Online graphs generated from 4d using XML and SWF ( did not do last time) -If anyone else would like to demo some neat 4d feature / or 4d working with other software let me know NB the Victoria line is not working after 10 pm so check for alternatives http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/livetravelnews/realtime/tube/tube-victoria-now .html Details below, just one rule... * please Reply to me if you plan to attend so we can book the table/s!* john at sci-do.co.uk Date: Monday 3rd March Time: 7pm Place: Pizza Express Victoria Street Opposite Victoria Tube District/Circle Exit http://www.pizzaexpress.co.uk/rest/rd39.htm Then: Victoria pub, Lower Belgrave St (Victoria station end) Usually get there 21:00-21:30 (if anyone wants to meet there later) As usual, everyone is welcome, no level of 4D knowledge/experience/ interest is required, just wanting to attend qualifies you. As already stated, let me know if you plan to attend! See you there John John convey Next 4d LUG meet ups Monday March 3rd 2008 Monday June 2nd 2008 Monday September 1st 2008